Margaret Taylor

So who was Margaret Taylor, and why is her name in so many history books? The answer is that she was the “country wife” of Sir George Simpson, governor of the Hudson’s Bay Company. This was the fact I discovered when I found her name in the book in the gift shop. It was common practice for men in the fur trade to take a native or Metis woman as a “country wife” or marry “à la facon du pays” (in the custom of the country). Sometimes these relationships were long-lasting, with provisions made for any children of the union. Sometimes, if a man was transferred to another post, he made provisions to “turn off” his partner, meaning he would arrange a marriage for her to someone else, and perhaps make some financial provisions.Although “love” may or may not have been a consideration, the relationship was often  beneficial to both parties.

As Sylvia Van Kirk says in her book Many Tender Ties:

“The Indian viewed marriage in an integrated social and economic context; a marital alliance created a reciprocal social bond which served to consolidate his economic relationship with a stranger. Thus, through marriage, the trader was drawn into the Indian’s kinship circle. And in return for giving the traders sexual and domestic rights to their women, the Indians expected reciprocal privileges such as free access to the posts and provisions.”

From the point of view of the fur trader, he gained not only companionship and important social ties to trading partners, but a wife who was skilled in the many practical skills necessary to his occupation, such as making snowshoes, moccasins and pemmican.

Margaret  Taylor was born around 1805 at the Polar Sea (York Factory) to George Taylor, an English sloopmaster and Jane, a native woman. Simpson apparently had many liaisons with Metis women, and around 1825 began a relationship with Margaret.   Simpson was known to have acknowledged Margaret’s brother Tom, who was his personal servant, as his “brother-in-law”. One of Margaret’s descendants, Christine Welsh, has a National Film Board movie called “Women in the Shadows” which explores her Metis roots.

Margaret bore Governor Simpson two sons. Their first son, George Stewart Simpson, was born February 11, 1827. (He would join HBC as a 13-year-old apprentice and eventually become a Chief Trader.) In July, 1828 Margaret accompanied Simpson on a canoe trip from York Factory to New Caledonia (what is now British Columbia).   Amable Hogue was part of the crew of this trip. During this voyage, Margaret became pregnant again with Simpson’s child.   James Raffan states in Emperor of the North:

“In fact, she had re-crossed through the April snows of the treacherous Athabasca Pass when well into her second trimester. Ninety miles on foot or on horseback slogging over her beloved governor’s muddy winter road between Fort Assiniboine and the North Saskatchewan likely did nothing to improve her feeling of well-being.”

Simpson left her at Fort Edmonton with instructions to Chief Factor John Rowand to arrange for her to go to Fort Alexander. This was done and Simpson’s second son, John Mckenzie Simpson, was born August 29, 1829. (John stayed in Manitoba.) Chief Factor John Stuart’s letter to Simpson, of February 1, 1830, praised Margaret :

“…it is but common justice to remark that in her comportment she is both decent and modest far beyond anything I could expect or ever witnessed in any of her country women. She appears to be as content as is possible for one of her sex to be in the absence of their lord and natural protector and as a mother she is most kind and attentive to her children whom she keeps very clean.”

There was a great deal of surprise then, when in May of 1830 Sir Simpson returned from a trip to England with a new wife in tow, his cousin Frances! Colleagues were shocked at Simpson’s cruel and dismissive treatment of Margaret. Simpson’s marriage to Frances is considered by historians to be a turning point in the social customs of the fur trade. Whereas native and Metis wives were at one time considered invaluable for their skills and connections, only European women were now  “civilized” enough for the expanding settlement. Years later, one of Margaret and Amable’s sons would refer to his mother as a “sturdy Scotswoman”. The denial of Metis roots had begun.

Governor Simpson belatedly arranged to have Margaret married off to Amable Hogue. They were married March 24, 1831 by Rev. David Jones at the Red River church, witnessed by Pierre Leblanc and William Bruce. Amable worked as a mason on the building of Lower Fort Garry, where Simpson and Frances were going to live…how ironic!

 

 

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34 thoughts on “Margaret Taylor

  1. I’ve recently become obsessed with finding out more about my family history and I LOVE your website. Thank you for the wonderful, well-documented reading! We are are distant cousins by way Marie Taillfer, by the way. Please continue, your avid readers are clamoring!

  2. Just did my grandmothers genealogy- Hogue. Is there a photo of Margaret Taylor or Amable Hogue in HBC archives?

  3. My name is Sam Simpson I live in Kentucky . John Simpson is my great great great great grandfather. So cool to learn about his mom!!!

  4. Victorine Lafferty

    My grandmother Victorine Boucher was Marya Bremner’s daughter. Marya (Maria) was the daughter of of Margaret Taylor or Amable Hogue.

  5. Hi Victorine! So happy you found my blog.

  6. This is very interesting information. I went to the St. Charles cemetery this weekend and saw Marguerite’s headstone. She was my Great-Great-Great Grandmother. Thanks for sharing this.

  7. Hi. So happy to locate your blog. I knew nothing of my family history until June 24th 2017 when I had the Good Fortune to cross paths with a talented genealogist.

    It’s all Fur Trade / Scottish / French / Metis / Native on my maternal grandfather’s side.

    From Amable Louis Hogue’s union with Margaret Taylor:
    Their son Joseph Amable Hogue marries Marie Pelagie Turcotte
    Their daughter Rosalie “Rosa” Hogue marries Richard Grant
    Their son Harry “Henry” Richard Grant is my maternal grandfather

    • Oh, I’m so happy you found my blog! Do you have death dates for Rosalie and Richard? I know they moved to Edmonton. Also I don’t have Henry’s wife’s (Margaret) maiden name, or their death dates.
      Have you read Son of the Fur Trade about Johnny Francis Grant?

      Jackie

      • Hi Jackie.
        I lost track of this thread, but I’m back now.

        Yes, I have read Johnny Grant’s memoirs. I recently visited the ranch he established in Montana. He is my great-great grandfather! My great-great grandmother was Aloysia Serpantis, a Shoshone woman.

        I was adopted, and named Byron Grant Miller. It turns out “Grant” was left as a clue.
        10 days after I first emailed you in 2017, I was reunited with my birth mother (after 71 years). We get along famously! She is 91 and tells me as much as she can about our family past.
        About my grandfather, Henry Richard Grant: This is his legal name, but he was called Harry. I had it backwards. My mother doesn’t know the year of his death. He was born on Sept 12, 1892 in St. Charles Manitoba.
        In 1915,Henry Richard Grant married Margaret Jane “Maggie” Littlechild. She was born Nov.14,1896. in Agricola, Alberta, Canada. She died Feb.9,1938 in Drumheller, Alberta.

        Her parents had immigrated to Canada in 1880, from Tadcaster, Yorkshire, England. The started out in Guelph, Ontario where they produced three children. Then they moved to Edmonton where Maggie and more siblings were born.

        Maggie, herself, had 12 children. My mother was 11 years old when her mother died. Harry was apparently not much of a provider. And of course, it was the Great Depression. It appears Maggie worked herself to death. I’ve also been told that Rosalie (Hogue) Grant was a very strict Catholic and that Harry did not thrive under her motherly influence, which was probably more common than not in those days. It seems that so many of us were gruff and surly back then.

        My entire life, I knew nothing of my heritage. Uncovering it is a wondrous thing.
        Byron

      • Hi Byron, so nice to hear your story. How wonderful for you to meet your Mom and make these connections. I don’t know when Henry died, but I was able to finally discover that Rosalie died 28 Apr 1941 and Richard on 28 Mar 1945, both in Edmonton.
        I found a picture of Henry at this site http://www.tudorrow.com/202battalion/named.html
        By the way, although Henry claimed to have been born 12 Sep 1892, his Manitoba birth registration states 12 Aug 1892. His baptismal record says the same thing https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61513&h=25806&tid=8183218&pid=24673973560&hid=1019107818712&usePUB=true&_phsrc=nNN15392&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true

        Rosalie certainly looks like a stern person in her photo. Do you mind sharing which of Henry’s children is your parent?

        Jackie

  8. Margaret was one of my great grandmothers. Later in life I went back to school and while minoring in history I had discovered these facts about her. I proceeded in writing a paper about her for one of my classes. It is fascinating to not only know that our family aided in the shape of a nation, but in the change of social culture.

    Monica

  9. Lorraine Shirtliff

    thank you for your blog I am really enjoying it. Margaret Taylor and Amable Hogue had a daughter Mary Ann who married Francois Welsh and they had 3 daughters and a son. One of these daughters is my husband’s grandmother

  10. Hello, and first of all let me thank you. Great blog.
    I am also a descendant of Margaret Taylor and Amable Hogue. Their son Amable married Marianne Allary, and thier daughter Flavie Hogue wed Elie Carriere.

    • Thanks for your kind words Shane! I need to go back and check what info I have on Flavie. I’m sure I’ve been in touch with other researchers about her. I’ll get back to you.

  11. I learnt about Margaret and Mary Taylor from my Grandmother and she was not pleased about how either was treated by their country husbands. Her grandmother, Jane b.1840, was the daughter of Thomas Taylor and Mary Keith. Cheers, Diana Gervais

  12. I’ve just recently found out that Margaret Taylor and amable Hogue are my ancestors!

    • Hi Michele. So happy you found my blog. Which of their children is your ancestor?

      • Thomas & Philomene’s daughter Sarah Hogue, daughter is Lilianne Giradin whom is my Grandma Laurie Besisle’s mom. Does that make sense?
        I was adopted at birth. Raised Ukrainian. I am not researching my family history as it interests me. I was at my Grandma’s (Laurie) and I was able to find out a lot of family history (names) and saw pictures. Neat to see blood relatives. These names are all new to me.
        I was really hoping that I was a descendent of Chief Peguis!

      • Well I am very glad that you found my blog! You Grandma Laurie is Laurie Postnicks right? We met once at a funeral and I met her sister Diane several times. Hope you enjoy the stories.

        Jackie

      • Yes Jackie, Laurie Postnicks is my grandmother. Brenda is her daughter, my birth mother. Laurie is so sweet. Very nice lady. 🙂
        I’m enjoying the blog. Thank you for it.

  13. Robert Daigneault

    Hi Jackie and thank you for the Blog! My name is Robert Daigneault and I live in Winnipeg. My great grand mother was Sarah Hogue, herself the grand daughter of Marguerite Taylor. Sarah’s father was Joseph Hogue, son of Amable Hogue and Marguerite Taylor. Sarah eventually married Emilien Daigneault and lived in the Saint François Xavier area west of Winnipeg. The Daigneault clan eventually moved to the Saint-Anne des chênes area and then back to Winnipeg. I will be researching more actively at the Société Historique de Saint-Boniface and the HBC archives as I am very interested in re-finding my Métis heritage and past and passing it along to my three daughters!
    Do you know if Margaret native heritage was Cree or Saulteux or other? Thanks again!

  14. Just went to Margarette Taylors grave site with my kids yesterday. She is my 4th great grandmother. Her son Thomas Hogue married Philomene McMillan. philomene’s mother is Margate McMillan (Dease) and she’s buried in the same graveyard as Margarette.
    Is it true that Margarette’s grandfather is Chief Peguis?

    • Hmm. I know that’s out there on the internet but not true. Marguerite’s mother was a Cree who is only identified as “Jane”. She and George Taylor Sr. had several children. The first one was likely George Jr. born around 1798 near Churchill. Since Chief Peguis didn’t come to Red River until late 1790s, it’s impossible for Jane to be his daughter. George Jr. also married a Jane and that’s were the confusion comes in. How are you related to Thomas and Philomene? They are my great grandparents.

    • James Charles turner

      Hi- my name is Jim turner. Mother is from red river- Margaret and sir George are my 4th great grandmother and grandfather.
      If you want some info, or I could expand mine, send me an d_mail please.

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